betsy, good morning. you said you were furious watching that interview. what was it you expected to hear? >> i want to give credit to lance because what he did, admitting that he was a fraud and a cheat, all those years, is a huge, big step. he took the first step. but he -- it all started with his hospital room, where he admitted using performance-enhancing drugs. and he wouldn't step up to the plate where it all happened. this is where it all started. i was really disappointed personally that he didn't admit to that. >> he admitted ruining the lives of many people who told the truth about his doping. but when he was asked point-blank, if you told the truth when you testified under oath, that lance had told his cancer doctors in that hospital room, that he used performance-enhancing drugs, he refused. he said, i'm going to lay down on that one. it sounds like he was saying, she didn't tell the truth. but i'm not going to challenge her anymore. >> in lance's mind, what he is saying is, i'll give her that one. so, in his mind, he is saying, let's agree wit